MY11.5 VW Golf R (175FUN v2.0)

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Post by SecaBoy » Thu 28 Jul, 2011 10:52 am

arent they 70:30 distribution normally?
or is that another car i'm thinking of?
if so, they would be pushing more...

wonder if you could buy a aftermarket unit which plays with the power distribution?
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Post by cGr » Thu 28 Jul, 2011 11:12 am

SecaBoy wrote:arent they 70:30 distribution normally?
or is that another car i'm thinking of?
if so, they would be pushing more...

wonder if you could buy a aftermarket unit which plays with the power distribution?
70:30 sounds excessive. You might be thinking of a gti-r :lol:

Aftermarket unit to control power distribution = haldex controller.

I drove an S3 a while back with a 3 stage controller (street/sport/race). On street it had the understeer of a pre-turnofthecentury wrx, horribly vague turn-in, pushed when it did, and worse when you tried to power out. On sport it felt better, in that you felt like it was giving you a bit more drive to the rear wheels to balance things out, but that it still didnt trust you. On race it was sublime. It reacted to throttle inputs to help steer the car, you could get power down hard on the exit of a corner, and it felt like you were driving the car again. The irony was that it felt more safe, though the speeds you could manage were definitely not.

That all said, and knowing that the R32 has an especially high amount of weight over the front wheels, I dont know why Volkswagen dont tune the understeer out of the car. tipper's R32 would be a much more enjoyable (and not to mention, much much much faster!) car to drive if it was a bit smarter with its power delivery.

I think the best (personal) example I can give is that if the STI started understeering on a long sweeping corner, the best thing you could do is give it more throttle. The ecu understood you wanted to go faster, the diffs would lock up some more, and the front would come back into line. In tipper's golf, and faced with the same situation (understeer through a long sweeper), the only thing the throttle would do is give you more or less understeer. The result is that you know you've got more power to pull out of the corner, and all the diffs are doing is wasting it.

Flip side? I was next to an R32 (as a pedestrian) at a set of lights when he gave it the full beans. Sounds nice. Like how good I'd expect Miranda Kerr to sound in the sack.

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Post by SecaBoy » Thu 28 Jul, 2011 12:23 pm

maybe its 60:40... dunno, its been a while since i looked into it... maybe noel/tim can comment on that...
i do know that it was more biased to the front than the rear... and in that case, one WOULD expect that it would push when you go around corners...


haldex controller sounds SWEET though...

noel/tim: BUY ONE NOW! :lol:
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Post by tipper » Thu 28 Jul, 2011 12:41 pm

In a straight line my understanding is that the power is 100% to the front. With a Haldex controller I think is still 100% to the front in any mode the difference being how fast it pust the power to the rear wheels. I coul be wrong though. What percentages it can move around I dont know.

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Post by cGr » Thu 28 Jul, 2011 12:49 pm

Is everyone talking about power or weight distribution?

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Post by SecaBoy » Thu 28 Jul, 2011 12:58 pm

im talking about power distribution... ie the LSD controllers
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Post by tipper » Thu 28 Jul, 2011 1:03 pm

Power.

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Post by DreamensioN » Sun 18 Sep, 2011 7:01 pm

According to all the automotive reviews - the R can send as much as 100% of the torque to the rear wheels. Yet when Fifth Gear tested the vehicle, it still had understeer.

The shootout against the Leon Cupra R is here:
http://fwd.channel5.com/fifth-gear/vide ... on-cupra-r

And with that - I've now added some photos to the first post. Managed to give the car a wash today, and took some pics.

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Post by cGr » Mon 19 Sep, 2011 9:27 am

DreamensioN wrote:According to all the automotive reviews - the R can send as much as 100% of the torque to the rear wheels. Yet when Fifth Gear tested the vehicle, it still had understeer.
F1 cars still get understeer :P

Pics look good. We need to organise a German hatch cruise seeing as though that's all anyone drives anymore. Well, with the exception of our bogan brethren in their station wagons :lol:

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Post by Jnr_Zilla » Mon 19 Sep, 2011 9:46 am

Keen to see ze germans out on the road. Let us know when you plan something I might show up in a tank. :P
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Post by SecaBoy » Mon 19 Sep, 2011 12:03 pm

we could have a aussie vs euro-trash battle... :D
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Post by cGr » Mon 19 Sep, 2011 12:14 pm

Talk it up boganboy. :lol:

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Post by SecaBoy » Mon 19 Sep, 2011 12:20 pm

i do believe us "boganboy's" out number you yuppy-euro-trash boys... so watch yaself!!! :D
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Post by blv » Mon 19 Sep, 2011 12:47 pm

i'll be the jap represent!!!

BTW, nice car Noel!
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Post by SecaBoy » Mon 19 Sep, 2011 1:48 pm

pfftttt jap cars are soooooo 90s... :P

these days you either have to own a car which breaks down all the time... or a car which when it does breakdown eventually, you have to re-mortgage your house to fix it... :lol:
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Post by DreamensioN » Sat 24 Sep, 2011 5:15 pm

Ok so... I just attempted an oil change on the Golf myself.

NEVER AGAIN!

That has to be one of the most difficult things I've ever done on a car. And most of all, I didn't even complete the job. I just ended up draining (what I could) of the old oil, and putting fresh oil in.

You need a special tool for $49 to drain the oil filter, before removing it. Not only that, you need to pull half the engine apart to get to the oil filter. And then once you get there....it's not even (what I call) a standard oil filter. It's a paper filter that's inside it's own permanant housing.

No wonder people leave this crap up to the dealership to do... and no wonder it's expensive!!!

Gone are the days of simple DIY on a car yourself!

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Post by Jnr_Zilla » Sat 24 Sep, 2011 6:21 pm

Cap price servicing FTW.. :roll:
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Post by DreamensioN » Sat 08 Oct, 2011 4:52 pm

Three things I learnt about the Golf R today.

1. Apart from the plastic engine cover, everything else in the engine bay has the Audi rings logo on it.

2. When the dynamic chassis control is in sport mode, not only does it firm up the suspension, but it also changes the steering ratio, and changes the throttle response (making it more sensitive). I've also found a post (which has yet to be confirmed) that it changes the AWD bias.

3. I learnt what the vents in the sunroof slider are for - it's so you can have the sunroof open (so it still sucks out the hot air), but you don't have to deal with the sun shining through.

And what I learned about Jo's TDI Tiguan...is that it too has launch control.

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Post by tipper » Sat 08 Oct, 2011 5:32 pm

you can actually drive with the sunroof open while it is raining moderately too - provided you dont stop of course.

will your sunroof and windows wind up if the car is locked and it starts raining? mine wont but there is a simple setting to make this happen I would like to get done.

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Post by DreamensioN » Mon 10 Oct, 2011 9:14 am

Yep, mine has that ability too, but it's not enabled by default.

I'm going to get myself one of those cables so I can enable it (probably as a christmas present). I don't know why they don't enable that function from the factory.

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